[Chaos-l] Special use permit of Boating Access Area

[Robert Nielsen]

I think we can apply for a special use permit ... but I bet they are 
only for a specific date and time.   They are "designed" for permitting 
people to have bass fishing contests and things like that.   So when we 
apply for a permit, we will probably have to say "we would like a permit 
for  February 20th between the hours of 8 PM and midnight.   It may be 
possible to (1) ask for all the permits that correspond to Fridays and 
Saturdays when we don't have dark site sessions or full moons, or we may 
be able to even apply for (2) a special use permit that does not have a 
specific date and time.  Who knows?   If we do get such a permit, how do 
we make sure that the club members that happen to go on that particular 
night have it on them (to show the ranger)?

Believe it or not, I think this is a great thing to discuss next Tuesday 
... at our next meeting.  This is actual club business!   And this is 
the kind of thing that a CLUB can accomplish where a single person may 
not.   So I suggest that we either discuss this subject before or even 
after the presentation next Tuesday ... and as a club figure out the 
best approach.

Jayme,   can I make a "motion" (on the listserv) to discuss this next 
Tuesday?

Robert

sims roy wrote:
> I read the description and I think we can apply for a special use 
> permit and meet the conditions that were stated:
>  
> "In addition, approval is
> conditional. One condition is that the tournament or
> other special use must not interfere with the intended
> use of the area. The second is that the permitted
> activity should not block the ramps or disrupt area
> use. A third condition is that the Commission promotes
> the "Pack it in, Pack it out" mission meaning that the
> permit recipient is required to remove all litter
> generated at the site by event participants. Fourth,
> no signs or banners may be erected on-site to endorse
> commercial products. And lastly, the permit must be
> available for inspection on-site during the event(s).
> One additional restriction is that Commission does not
> allow the selling of goods, materials, or services at
> any BAA facility. "
>  
> We'd need to list the dates and times and give a typical head count 
> for Nov to Nov each year and state that we would meet the conditions 
> listed above.  I think it should just be a matter of applying for the 
> permit and make our case.  I guess they need something to protect 
> themselves from criticism.  Sims Roy
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Kumar Pandya <mailto:eklf at yahoo.com>
>     *To:* chaos-l at rtpnet.org <mailto:chaos-l at rtpnet.org>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:38 PM
>     *Subject:* [Chaos-l] Special use permit of Boating Access Area
>
>     I was looking through the website posted by Micheal
>     Hrivnak, and came across a "Special use Permit"
>     description.  I have attached the description below.
>     I have read it several times, and have the feeling
>     that we (CHAOS) might qualify.  I invite all to read
>     and make sure that I have not missed anything.  In a
>     nutshell, we (as in an organisation, not individual)
>     request the permit and provide advanced information
>     abt the specific days; and if approved, are given a
>     permit that needs to be shown during the event.
>
>     Allthough the description below appears specific for
>     "tournament weigh-in", note that is also followed by
>     "and special use".
>
>     -----------------------------
>     Every year the NCWRC issues fishing tournament
>     weigh-in, and special use permits for each Wildlife
>     Resources Commission Boating Access Area (BAA). The
>     main purpose of these permits is to ensure that only
>     allowable activities occur and that multiple large
>     events do not occur concurrently at any site thereby
>     helping to manage congestion and user accessibility.
>     Currently, these permits are issued at no fee and are
>     mailed or emailed to permit so that it will be
>     available on-site during the special use or tournament
>     weigh-in.
>     These permits are first come, first serve. Thus, in
>     order to guarantee that a BAA site is available, it is
>     recommended that you need to call early within the
>     request period. The request period for each year
>     begins on November 1 of the preceding year. Currently,
>     weigh-in permits that authorize fewer than 15 boats
>     are issued as blanket authorizations and remain valid
>     until January 31 of the following year.
>     All organizations should be aware that these permits
>     do not reserve a BAA, and the site will remain
>     available to others. In addition, approval is
>     conditional. One condition is that the tournament or
>     other special use must not interfere with the intended
>     use of the area. The second is that the permitted
>     activity should not block the ramps or disrupt area
>     use. A third condition is that the Commission promotes
>     the "Pack it in, Pack it out" mission meaning that the
>     permit recipient is required to remove all litter
>     generated at the site by event participants. Fourth,
>     no signs or banners may be erected on-site to endorse
>     commercial products. And lastly, the permit must be
>     available for inspection on-site during the event(s).
>     One additional restriction is that Commission does not
>     allow the selling of goods, materials, or services at
>     any BAA facility.
>     Wildlife Resources Commission BAA's are available to
>     the public for the purpose of providing free public
>     boat launching. Fishing tournament weigh-ins and other
>     special uses require a permit from the Division of
>     Engineering Services. Wildlife Enforcement Officers
>     may request confirmation that a permit has been
>     acquired.
>     When you call, please be prepared to provide:
>     . an organization name
>     . contact name
>     . mailing address
>     . boating access area name
>     . body of water
>     . a date for the requested event
>     If the event is a tournament weigh-in with fewer than
>     fifteen (15) boats involved, you will not need to
>     provide a tournament date nor location under the
>     current guidelines. If you know that you will have
>     several tournaments within the same year, it is best
>     to call with all your dates at the same time, so that
>     our office will be able to combine all the tournament
>     permits into one.
>     -------------------------------------
>
>     Any thoughts?
>     Kumar
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