[Chaos-l] Special use permit of Boating Access Area
Michael Hrivnak
mhrivnak at hrivnak.org
Sat Feb 9 23:35:10 EST 2008
I second the motion to discuss this on Tuesday.
How long have we been going to Farrington? At whatever point we make a case
for a permit, it will be nice to say "We've been enjoying the use of
Farrington for X years without incident."
Michael
On Saturday 09 February 2008 11:15:44 pm Robert Nielsen wrote:
> I think we can apply for a special use permit ... but I bet they are
> only for a specific date and time. They are "designed" for permitting
> people to have bass fishing contests and things like that. So when we
> apply for a permit, we will probably have to say "we would like a permit
> for February 20th between the hours of 8 PM and midnight. It may be
> possible to (1) ask for all the permits that correspond to Fridays and
> Saturdays when we don't have dark site sessions or full moons, or we may
> be able to even apply for (2) a special use permit that does not have a
> specific date and time. Who knows? If we do get such a permit, how do
> we make sure that the club members that happen to go on that particular
> night have it on them (to show the ranger)?
>
> Believe it or not, I think this is a great thing to discuss next Tuesday
> ... at our next meeting. This is actual club business! And this is
> the kind of thing that a CLUB can accomplish where a single person may
> not. So I suggest that we either discuss this subject before or even
> after the presentation next Tuesday ... and as a club figure out the
> best approach.
>
> Jayme, can I make a "motion" (on the listserv) to discuss this next
> Tuesday?
>
> Robert
>
> sims roy wrote:
> > I read the description and I think we can apply for a special use
> > permit and meet the conditions that were stated:
> >
> > "In addition, approval is
> > conditional. One condition is that the tournament or
> > other special use must not interfere with the intended
> > use of the area. The second is that the permitted
> > activity should not block the ramps or disrupt area
> > use. A third condition is that the Commission promotes
> > the "Pack it in, Pack it out" mission meaning that the
> > permit recipient is required to remove all litter
> > generated at the site by event participants. Fourth,
> > no signs or banners may be erected on-site to endorse
> > commercial products. And lastly, the permit must be
> > available for inspection on-site during the event(s).
> > One additional restriction is that Commission does not
> > allow the selling of goods, materials, or services at
> > any BAA facility. "
> >
> > We'd need to list the dates and times and give a typical head count
> > for Nov to Nov each year and state that we would meet the conditions
> > listed above. I think it should just be a matter of applying for the
> > permit and make our case. I guess they need something to protect
> > themselves from criticism. Sims Roy
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Kumar Pandya <mailto:eklf at yahoo.com>
> > *To:* chaos-l at rtpnet.org <mailto:chaos-l at rtpnet.org>
> > *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:38 PM
> > *Subject:* [Chaos-l] Special use permit of Boating Access Area
> >
> > I was looking through the website posted by Micheal
> > Hrivnak, and came across a "Special use Permit"
> > description. I have attached the description below.
> > I have read it several times, and have the feeling
> > that we (CHAOS) might qualify. I invite all to read
> > and make sure that I have not missed anything. In a
> > nutshell, we (as in an organisation, not individual)
> > request the permit and provide advanced information
> > abt the specific days; and if approved, are given a
> > permit that needs to be shown during the event.
> >
> > Allthough the description below appears specific for
> > "tournament weigh-in", note that is also followed by
> > "and special use".
> >
> > -----------------------------
> > Every year the NCWRC issues fishing tournament
> > weigh-in, and special use permits for each Wildlife
> > Resources Commission Boating Access Area (BAA). The
> > main purpose of these permits is to ensure that only
> > allowable activities occur and that multiple large
> > events do not occur concurrently at any site thereby
> > helping to manage congestion and user accessibility.
> > Currently, these permits are issued at no fee and are
> > mailed or emailed to permit so that it will be
> > available on-site during the special use or tournament
> > weigh-in.
> > These permits are first come, first serve. Thus, in
> > order to guarantee that a BAA site is available, it is
> > recommended that you need to call early within the
> > request period. The request period for each year
> > begins on November 1 of the preceding year. Currently,
> > weigh-in permits that authorize fewer than 15 boats
> > are issued as blanket authorizations and remain valid
> > until January 31 of the following year.
> > All organizations should be aware that these permits
> > do not reserve a BAA, and the site will remain
> > available to others. In addition, approval is
> > conditional. One condition is that the tournament or
> > other special use must not interfere with the intended
> > use of the area. The second is that the permitted
> > activity should not block the ramps or disrupt area
> > use. A third condition is that the Commission promotes
> > the "Pack it in, Pack it out" mission meaning that the
> > permit recipient is required to remove all litter
> > generated at the site by event participants. Fourth,
> > no signs or banners may be erected on-site to endorse
> > commercial products. And lastly, the permit must be
> > available for inspection on-site during the event(s).
> > One additional restriction is that Commission does not
> > allow the selling of goods, materials, or services at
> > any BAA facility.
> > Wildlife Resources Commission BAA's are available to
> > the public for the purpose of providing free public
> > boat launching. Fishing tournament weigh-ins and other
> > special uses require a permit from the Division of
> > Engineering Services. Wildlife Enforcement Officers
> > may request confirmation that a permit has been
> > acquired.
> > When you call, please be prepared to provide:
> > . an organization name
> > . contact name
> > . mailing address
> > . boating access area name
> > . body of water
> > . a date for the requested event
> > If the event is a tournament weigh-in with fewer than
> > fifteen (15) boats involved, you will not need to
> > provide a tournament date nor location under the
> > current guidelines. If you know that you will have
> > several tournaments within the same year, it is best
> > to call with all your dates at the same time, so that
> > our office will be able to combine all the tournament
> > permits into one.
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> > Kumar
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