[Chaos-l] Special use permit of Boating Access Area
Mark South
md_south at mac.com
Sun Feb 10 08:20:57 EST 2008
Yes, I think discussion Tues would be a great idea.
Robert's rules of order does not require that I "third" the motion,
but if I could I would!
See folks Tues.
mark
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Mark South
md_south at mac.com
http://web.mac.com/md_south
On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Michael Hrivnak wrote:
> I second the motion to discuss this on Tuesday.
>
> How long have we been going to Farrington? At whatever point we
> make a case
> for a permit, it will be nice to say "We've been enjoying the use of
> Farrington for X years without incident."
>
> Michael
>
> On Saturday 09 February 2008 11:15:44 pm Robert Nielsen wrote:
>> I think we can apply for a special use permit ... but I bet they are
>> only for a specific date and time. They are "designed" for
>> permitting
>> people to have bass fishing contests and things like that. So
>> when we
>> apply for a permit, we will probably have to say "we would like a
>> permit
>> for February 20th between the hours of 8 PM and midnight. It
>> may be
>> possible to (1) ask for all the permits that correspond to Fridays
>> and
>> Saturdays when we don't have dark site sessions or full moons, or
>> we may
>> be able to even apply for (2) a special use permit that does not
>> have a
>> specific date and time. Who knows? If we do get such a permit,
>> how do
>> we make sure that the club members that happen to go on that
>> particular
>> night have it on them (to show the ranger)?
>>
>> Believe it or not, I think this is a great thing to discuss next
>> Tuesday
>> ... at our next meeting. This is actual club business! And this is
>> the kind of thing that a CLUB can accomplish where a single person
>> may
>> not. So I suggest that we either discuss this subject before or
>> even
>> after the presentation next Tuesday ... and as a club figure out the
>> best approach.
>>
>> Jayme, can I make a "motion" (on the listserv) to discuss this next
>> Tuesday?
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> sims roy wrote:
>>> I read the description and I think we can apply for a special use
>>> permit and meet the conditions that were stated:
>>>
>>> "In addition, approval is
>>> conditional. One condition is that the tournament or
>>> other special use must not interfere with the intended
>>> use of the area. The second is that the permitted
>>> activity should not block the ramps or disrupt area
>>> use. A third condition is that the Commission promotes
>>> the "Pack it in, Pack it out" mission meaning that the
>>> permit recipient is required to remove all litter
>>> generated at the site by event participants. Fourth,
>>> no signs or banners may be erected on-site to endorse
>>> commercial products. And lastly, the permit must be
>>> available for inspection on-site during the event(s).
>>> One additional restriction is that Commission does not
>>> allow the selling of goods, materials, or services at
>>> any BAA facility. "
>>>
>>> We'd need to list the dates and times and give a typical head count
>>> for Nov to Nov each year and state that we would meet the conditions
>>> listed above. I think it should just be a matter of applying for
>>> the
>>> permit and make our case. I guess they need something to protect
>>> themselves from criticism. Sims Roy
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Kumar Pandya <mailto:eklf at yahoo.com>
>>> *To:* chaos-l at rtpnet.org <mailto:chaos-l at rtpnet.org>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:38 PM
>>> *Subject:* [Chaos-l] Special use permit of Boating Access Area
>>>
>>> I was looking through the website posted by Micheal
>>> Hrivnak, and came across a "Special use Permit"
>>> description. I have attached the description below.
>>> I have read it several times, and have the feeling
>>> that we (CHAOS) might qualify. I invite all to read
>>> and make sure that I have not missed anything. In a
>>> nutshell, we (as in an organisation, not individual)
>>> request the permit and provide advanced information
>>> abt the specific days; and if approved, are given a
>>> permit that needs to be shown during the event.
>>>
>>> Allthough the description below appears specific for
>>> "tournament weigh-in", note that is also followed by
>>> "and special use".
>>>
>>> -----------------------------
>>> Every year the NCWRC issues fishing tournament
>>> weigh-in, and special use permits for each Wildlife
>>> Resources Commission Boating Access Area (BAA). The
>>> main purpose of these permits is to ensure that only
>>> allowable activities occur and that multiple large
>>> events do not occur concurrently at any site thereby
>>> helping to manage congestion and user accessibility.
>>> Currently, these permits are issued at no fee and are
>>> mailed or emailed to permit so that it will be
>>> available on-site during the special use or tournament
>>> weigh-in.
>>> These permits are first come, first serve. Thus, in
>>> order to guarantee that a BAA site is available, it is
>>> recommended that you need to call early within the
>>> request period. The request period for each year
>>> begins on November 1 of the preceding year. Currently,
>>> weigh-in permits that authorize fewer than 15 boats
>>> are issued as blanket authorizations and remain valid
>>> until January 31 of the following year.
>>> All organizations should be aware that these permits
>>> do not reserve a BAA, and the site will remain
>>> available to others. In addition, approval is
>>> conditional. One condition is that the tournament or
>>> other special use must not interfere with the intended
>>> use of the area. The second is that the permitted
>>> activity should not block the ramps or disrupt area
>>> use. A third condition is that the Commission promotes
>>> the "Pack it in, Pack it out" mission meaning that the
>>> permit recipient is required to remove all litter
>>> generated at the site by event participants. Fourth,
>>> no signs or banners may be erected on-site to endorse
>>> commercial products. And lastly, the permit must be
>>> available for inspection on-site during the event(s).
>>> One additional restriction is that Commission does not
>>> allow the selling of goods, materials, or services at
>>> any BAA facility.
>>> Wildlife Resources Commission BAA's are available to
>>> the public for the purpose of providing free public
>>> boat launching. Fishing tournament weigh-ins and other
>>> special uses require a permit from the Division of
>>> Engineering Services. Wildlife Enforcement Officers
>>> may request confirmation that a permit has been
>>> acquired.
>>> When you call, please be prepared to provide:
>>> . an organization name
>>> . contact name
>>> . mailing address
>>> . boating access area name
>>> . body of water
>>> . a date for the requested event
>>> If the event is a tournament weigh-in with fewer than
>>> fifteen (15) boats involved, you will not need to
>>> provide a tournament date nor location under the
>>> current guidelines. If you know that you will have
>>> several tournaments within the same year, it is best
>>> to call with all your dates at the same time, so that
>>> our office will be able to combine all the tournament
>>> permits into one.
>>> -------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> Kumar
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