[Chaos-l] Chapel Hill town hall meeting tonight re: lights

[Mark South]

Please excuse the bad English:
"...more lights ARE making a bigger carbon footprint..."

Bottom-line:  I think a good argument is use the environment for the  
students.
Save mother earth, man!  (catch the cynicism?)
mark

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On Apr 8, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Mark South wrote:

> also we should mention that if we are all trying to be "Green" and  
> "earth friendly" as most UNC students want to be, more lights is  
> making a bigger carbon footprint and wasting energy.
> mark
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> On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Mickey Jo Sorrell wrote:
>> Thanks for this alert.
>> Here's the article from today's Daily Tar Heel.
>>
>> http://media.www.dailytarheel.com/media/storage/paper885/news/2008/04/08/City/Town-Lighting.Up.For.Debate-3309440.shtml
>>
>> I'm inclined to do my part for dark skies and skip our CHAOS meeting
>> tonight. The usual idea, of course, is that more light is better  
>> light.
>> Last year on a campus lighting tour the students objected loudly
>> whenever we traveled from an over lit area to an area with lower
>> lighting levels.
>>
>> On-campus lighting is beginning to make the change toward putting
>> correct wattage in the right places. I would hope that the town  
>> consider
>> the same course.
>>
>> And if you want more info about light pollution, consider attending  
>> "Our
>> Vanishing Night" on April 20.  CHAOS and the Chapel Hill Town Council
>> are listed as co-sponsors.
>> http://moreheadplanetarium.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&filename=vanish.html
>>
>> Mickey
>>
>>
>>
>> Vaughn Jett wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if my previous message went through or
>>> not.
>>>
>>> There's a meeting tonight at 7 (terrible timing, I
>>> know) regarding an idea to put up yet more lights in
>>> Chapel Hill near campus.
>>>
>>> I want to go and argue that lights don't make us any
>>> safer from crime overall.  Does anybody else want to
>>> go?  It will probably go on after the chaos meeting is
>>> over.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have any facts to arm me with?
>>>
>>> Was the Eve Carson site lit or not?  I suspect that it
>>> was, but I want to be sure before I make assertions
>>> before a crowd of people.
>>>
>>> My main point will be that lights only make us less
>>> afraid rather than safer.  And in some cases (like
>>> when the assailant has a gun) lights can actually make
>>> the situation more dangerous.
>>>
>>>
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