[Chaos-l] Litterbox training for streetlights

[Stewart-Taylor, Jon]

Hi Vaughn (and all).  You said:

> my position is that lights don't make us safer,

While it is certainly true that adding lights doesn't intrinsically
improve the safety of an area, my point is that we're dealing with
pre-existing glare-bomb lights.  Replacing them with full-cutoff lights
_does_ improve the safety of an area, for reasons involving reduced
distraction for drivers, increased visibility for pedestrians, etc.

Removing the lights entirely might do the same, but we're dealing with
the art of the possible.  I believe strongly that you'll get a much
better response to "improving the light will improve safety" than you
will to "removing the light won't affect safety".

Does that make sense to you?

J.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Chaos-l] Litterbox training for streetlights

Well, as far as:

> "...better visibility and increased safety on the ground..."

my position is that lights don't make us safer, so I wouldn't say those
2 things together.

I still haven't made this assertion in any public forum yet, but maybe
someday I'll finally do it.