[Durham INC] [C+H Neighborhood] Copper Theft
randy at 27beverly.com
Thu Mar 12 14:27:41 EDT 2009
So now, even though many recycling efforts have failed, we want to further
"tax" the recycling industry? I understand the desire of this, but
recycling should be rewarded and not penalized. And adding to the burden
is not the way to do this. You already have to have a valid photo ID to
recycle metals (at valid recycling operations) and personal information is
gathered in that process. What's the purpose of the legislation when
thieves can just haul their booty to VA (like the manhole cover thefts
that occurred last year)? These are thefts of personal property (from
private property typically) and do not effect the common nature of
city-wide neighborhoods. Home owners insurance generally covers the theft
so there is no public loss. It's not a neighborhood issue when only
individuals are the ones involved... And although I'll suggest this with
no supporting evidence, it may be that the individual property owners are
involved in the thefts themselves. It would be a lot cheaper to pay the
insurance premiums than replace a HVAC system in a property for sell. Not
may homes have ever had the copper removed while occupied...
In conversations just now with the Captain of District 3, he said copper
theft has almost disappeared. He didn't recall one in the last 30 days.
And he didn't recall it being an issue across the City when the whole
Police force leadership met last. There are more car thefts across this
City than copper thefts. And this is every day... So are junk yards next?
This is another "feel good" issue that is best left out of our Legislative
Delegation's hands. I'll mention this again, a far better issue for them
to take forward is a communication/database system where all local law
enforcement can find out information. As an example, Durham County
Sheriff's Department does not have access to the P2P system that Durham
City Police uses. And as you spread out across our region, you have
Orange, Wake, Person, etc. that do not have the same access of information
sharing. The week before Eve Carson was shot, those involved were over in
Orange County (they didn't live there) and were stopped for another issue.
Had Orange County been able to see they were on probation in Durham, they
would have been in jail and not involved in the Carson death. To me, this
is one of the most pressing law enforcement issues that would make all of
our streets safer.
Build a metal box around your HVAC ststem to protect it from theft if it's
an issue, don't ask our Legislative Delegation to waste time on personal
> I think this is an excellent resolution. In addition to being a
> issue, it is also a crime issue. Therefor (in my opinion) it should be
> endorsed by all five of Durham's Partners Against Crime organizations,
> Businesses Against Crime, and InterNeighborhood Council.
> Since I'm not subscribed to PAC 1, 3, 4, & 5, perhaps someone will
> this suggestion to the others.
> Bill Anderson
> In a message dated 3/12/2009 12:02:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Ken at KenGasch.com writes:
> Please take a gander at resolution below. Authored by Colin Crossman and
> Would like for Cleveland-Holloway to sponsor. (i.e. place in hopper for
> Comments? Questions? Go, no-Go?
> Ken Gasch
> Whereas, the current laws respecting the theft of copper, including
> the latest revisions passed by the North Carolina General Assembly in
> _____, have not been successful in stemming the tide of copper theft;
> Whereas, though the economic downturn has decreased the price of
> copper, the magnitude of the problem is only increasing, and the
> injury done to the community is substantial; and
> Whereas, the State of North Carolina and the several counties and
> municipalities are facing an extreme budget shortfall, and that such a
> shortfall is not helped by the fact that metal recyclers do not report
> metal sales to the taxing authority, and this results in a tremendous
> amount of untaxed economic activity;
> IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED that the Durham InterNeighborhood Council
> express the sense of the neighborhoods to the Durham Elected Officials
> and the Durham State Delegation that copper theft remains a problem
> and that the state should look into alternatives which cause all metal
> transactions to be reported to the Revenue Office, linked with a valid
> tax id number of the metal seller, for all transactions above $10.00.
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